i love this discussion between daniel vitalis and ka sundance. yes that's a funny name but i'd like very much to know him in real life. dialectic vs debate - very interesting. i love the respect these guys show each other.

i kept thinking ka would bust out the china study's epidemiology but he never did, and then vitalis says it's been debunked. hm, interesting. i don't know anything about that but i'm willing to learn.

i'll tell you a little secret. i have always eaten fried rice with eggs since i became a vegan. i've never been totally "pure" and i've tried to not be religious about it. lately i've been eating fried eggs, a little here or there, maybe once or twice a month. lately i've been craving steak. i'm not at all sure i can digest it at this point though. mostly what i am learning is that there are an amazing number of incredible plants that we can eat and there are strong ecological arguments for eating plants, or at least for dumping our industrial food system and going organic. what i am more leaning towards is local farming and to that end we finally joined a CSA and i'm going to start learning about organic farming by actually doing it - volunteering, taking classes and so on.

the main reason i am still advocating a heavily plant based diet is the effect eating a lot of fruits and vegetables has on my moods and on my mental energy and creative output. however i'll be honest and say that my energy level physically has not been what it was, so i have a few real questions to ask and answer. being vegan has been an incredible journey, i am still learning new recipes, learning about new things to eat and new ways to combine food.